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.458 WM vs .375 H&H : complementary ?

This is a discussion on .458 WM vs .375 H&H : complementary ? within the .375 & Up forums, part of the HUNTING EQUIPMENT, FIREARMS & AMMUNITION category; Originally Posted by bebo YES ! I have found a Winch 70 Safari Express year : 2006 ? (New Haven) ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bebo View Post
    YES !
    I have found a Winch 70 Safari Express year : 2006 ? (New Haven) .416 RM with Leupold Var X III 1.5-5x20 , swivel (?) mount. : 800 US$
    Perfect!
    I tried it : wahou ! the recoil is a little stronger than my .375H&h, but quite acceptable ! Perfect !!
    congrats bebo, take some pictures and post them. We would love to see the new rifle.
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    thanks you pair
    im trying not to get it
    young fella wants to hunt deer with it
    90-120 usd a pack for ammo (wow wasn't expecting that much )
    he said the firearm was a 98 mauser custom and was cheap at $ 795 aussie
    he didn't tell me the chaff was that dear
    looks like im goin for it .......
    in relation to recoil l find the 375HH pretty comfortable but ive only 7 shots out of it .
    what more can l expect from this firearm ?
    if we do get it atleast he will leave my 375HH alone, then maybe l will get to shoot meat animal with it .
    while we here what a good load to make up for my 375HH
    ive only been able to sierra game king 270 grain projectile and accubond 270 grain white tipped ballistis projectile
    havnt look into powders yet , was thinking reloader any hints????
    one more question ,whats a ramline stock ??

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    was thinking reloader any hints????

    I'm not a re-loader buddy (factory ammo only, for me) ... Sure there are a lot of guys on here that could help with that.

    Just have a gunsmith check out any custom built (military action) rifle, that's all I ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluey View Post
    thanks you pair
    im trying not to get it
    young fella wants to hunt deer with it
    90-120 usd a pack for ammo (wow wasn't expecting that much )
    he said the firearm was a 98 mauser custom and was cheap at $ 795 aussie
    he didn't tell me the chaff was that dear


    looks like im goin for it .......
    in relation to recoil l find the 375HH pretty comfortable but ive only 7 shots out of it .
    what more can l expect from this firearm ?
    if we do get it atleast he will leave my 375HH alone, then maybe l will get to shoot meat animal with it .
    while we here what a good load to make up for my 375HH
    ive only been able to sierra game king 270 grain projectile and accubond 270 grain white tipped ballistis projectile
    havnt look into powders yet , was thinking reloader any hints????
    one more question ,whats a ramline stock ??
    A Ramline stock is just a plastic replacement stock.

    Reloder powders are good. Start with Re15 for the .375. Re17 and 19 may be better. IMR 4350 is the classic. IMR4064 is great for accuracy but 4350 or IMR 4831 might go a little faster. Varget might be a good bet. I always used IMR4831 and 4350 in mine with 300gr bullets. Great accuracy and top velocities.

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    BTW bluey, dont you have your countryman Nick Harvey's 'Practical Reloading Manual'?? Covers just about everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sestoppelman View Post
    A Ramline stock is just a plastic replacement stock.

    Reloder powders are good. Start with Re15 for the .375. Re17 and 19 may be better. IMR 4350 is the classic. IMR4064 is great for accuracy but 4350 or IMR 4831 might go a little faster. Varget might be a good bet. I always used IMR4831 and 4350 in mine with 300gr bullets. Great accuracy and top velocities.
    Gotta go with ses on these recommendations. However I wouldn't say Varget might be a good bet, fairly certain it is a good bet. I also like H4895 with the lighter bullets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sestoppelman View Post
    BTW bluey, dont you have your countryman Nick Harvey's 'Practical Reloading Manual'?? Covers just about everything.
    gday sess thankyou very much for for that info .
    the only powders l know of is adi powders and recently reloader (alliant) powders

    and cant say ive even heard of no nick Harvey or his book
    the only reloading guide ive used is the adi one that comes with a 5 kilo container of powder ,and what you good people have passed on

    the 375HH lm having trouble getting cases and just cant get barnes tsx in this calibre from the gunshop in the next town across from us. lve bought 2 boxes of ammo for it and that's about all the cases ive got so far , and the young bloke has used all them so next time im in over night l really want to start setting up a load
    thinking l might try some of the bigger gunshops when im in the city on the 17th of this month .if l get time .


    now this ramline stock is it any good ?
    or do l need to start really try backing out of this ,
    everytime the service is coming in kody is on the phone trying to get a yes
    thanks again sess

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    I came across and purchased a Mauser double trigger 458wm last week that I could not resist and had to buy.

    Although I am nota huge fan of the 458wm the rifle was just to nice to not buy.

    after reading about the caliber I think I will load a 400g bullet.

    this old mauser is in great condition and I am looking forward to restoring her further. I wish I knew more about the history of the rifle !

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassasdaindia View Post
    I came across and purchased a Mauser double trigger 458wm last week that I could not resist and had to buy.

    Although I am nota huge fan of the 458wm the rifle was just to nice to not buy.

    after reading about the caliber I think I will load a 400g bullet.

    this old mauser is in great condition and I am looking forward to restoring her further. I wish I knew more about the history of the rifle !

    Pleaaase ... PICS ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluey View Post
    someone talk me out of it please ...
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    here in SA we can only take the rifle from the seller/shop once the licence has been approved

    pic's to follow

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluey View Post
    gday sess thankyou very much for for that info .
    the only powders l know of is adi powders and recently reloader (alliant) powders

    and cant say ive even heard of no nick Harvey or his book
    the only reloading guide ive used is the adi one that comes with a 5 kilo container of powder ,and what you good people have passed on

    the 375HH lm having trouble getting cases and just cant get barnes tsx in this calibre from the gunshop in the next town across from us. lve bought 2 boxes of ammo for it and that's about all the cases ive got so far , and the young bloke has used all them so next time im in over night l really want to start setting up a load
    thinking l might try some of the bigger gunshops when im in the city on the 17th of this month .if l get time .


    now this ramline stock is it any good ?
    or do l need to start really try backing out of this ,
    everytime the service is coming in kody is on the phone trying to get a yes
    thanks again sess
    Bluey, the Ramline is sort of a low end stock in the plastic stock world, it works but nothing fancy about it. Surprised you have not heard of Nick Harvey, him being from OZ. Per Phils answer, the only reason I didnt actually recommend Varget is because I have not used it in the .375. Its fabulous everywhere else I use it. Decisions, decisions.

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    Ramline is a low end stock, I don't care for them.

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    what's the opinion on the 458 caliber ?

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    thanks fellas the stock has scared me off this firearm
    much to the young fellas displeasure .
    l love the help and advice you guys so freely share
    thank you
    im sure he will find another one soon enough

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    That was probably a good call bluey, if it had a Bell and Carlson, it would have been a good deal. I love Bell and Carlson stocks.

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